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Back in the day, Revenant had a fun little romp called Bloody Mess, where she encountered Rene due Sans and a child vampire who whiled away the hours haunting a slaughterhouse. Fun times. At the end of the thread, Rev and Rene called in Nick Cimitere's expertise to de-vampify the little girl, and were successful in turning her into a child who merely has years of therapy in front of her.

Now, all this means that there is a vampire cure in the Freedom Verse; however difficult and convoluted it may be, vampirism can be cured. The question I will now give to you all is: knowing that, how would one explain a person becoming and staying a vampire? Assuming they don't simply want MORE POWER!! Is there a logical method that someone could be stuck as a bloodsucking undead horror?

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Back in the day, Revenant had a fun little romp called Bloody Mess, where she encountered Rene due Sans and a child vampire who whiled away the hours haunting a slaughterhouse. Fun times. At the end of the thread, Rev and Rene called in Nick Cimitere's expertise to de-vampify the little girl, and were successful in turning her into a child who merely has years of therapy in front of her.

Now, all this means that there is a vampire cure in the Freedom Verse; however difficult and convoluted it may be, vampirism can be cured. The question I will now give to you all is: knowing that, how would one explain a person becoming and staying a vampire? Assuming they don't simply want MORE POWER!! Is there a logical method that someone could be stuck as a bloodsucking undead horror?

Perhaps it depends on the "breed" of vampire?

 

Some can be cured like that, but some carry a greater risk.

 

I mean, Comrade Frost is rather different than Avenger, right?

 

Also, perhaps some want to stay that way to try and, essentially, be a stabilizing force (again like Avenger).

 

Others might be scared to change, because they've been a vampire their whole centuries of life.

 

Perhaps some are so old if they change, they die. And they don't want to die.

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And others altogether might be trying to stop the spread of a cure.  Even siring more.  Wouldn't be surprised if some were even immune to the cure.  Likely someone who's been doing it for a while, like Nightrage (If he's still even around in the setting).  Or maybe the cure's not really completely effective.  Unaware to even the likes of Nick Cimitere it just suppresses the curse for some time.  Or going off KD's risky angle, it could be that curing the condition restores any injuries sustained in the vampire's entire undeath.  And as such for some it would just lead to death.

 

Perhaps its someone who feels that can do more good as a vampire.  It does have some upsides after all.  Or they could feel they don't deserve one having to redeem themselves for decades of horrible misdeeds first.  Or if more villainous wanting to continue decades of misdeeds.  The last and most simple solution, not everyone is even aware of the notion of a cure and why chase after something you've never heard of existing?

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Actually, it was Bloody Nora (Mess is someone quite different  :rock: )!

 

This arc has been developed by myself and TiffK for quite some time - the Master (who created Rev) is a vampire, a scientist and a magician. He has been experimenting on ways to manipulate death and life, and create something with the strength of the undead and the heart and soul of the living. His three major creations, Nora, Revenant, and Lady Stone, are - whilst undead, not technically vampires, they are more like experiments. 

 

In other words, we pretty much fudged the whole issue. Which is the best thing to do, leaving it open for whatever plot device is needed in the future. 

 

Personally I think vampirism should remain a reasonably permanent thing for the rank and file, with various plot devices about reversing or altering it. This leaves it open for more stories. 

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There's also the fact that in that thread, while it happened, it required two of the most powerful mages on the planet, one of whom is one of the best necromancers alive (pun intended!). That doesn't mean a cure is easy, or workable in most situations.

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Had the child-vamp tasted human blood?  In the Marvel Universe, Doctor Strange successfully de-vamped Hannibal King with The Monstesi Formula, but the ritual only worked because King had never fed on a living human (only animals).

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The existence of a viable cure for vampires doesn't mean there will no longer be any vampires. Rather, it means that any vampires you encounter will fall into one of two categories: Either they don't want to be cured, or else there's some reason they can't be cured. In the absence of a cure, the "don't want a cure" category would be substantially smaller, because by definition, that option would not be available to those vampires who did want to be cured.

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Nora positively gorged on blood! (and wasn't exactly a child, just a bit short in the brains department). However, she was not exactly a vampire either. She was created by one, but other than being undead and drinking blood, the similarity stopped. 

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Ah, so Nora wasn't actually a vampire! So what cured her wasn't a vampire cure, but instead a cure for whatever blood-drinking deadness she had.

 

Well now I feel rather silly.

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